Dave
& Nancy Greenman with Worldventure in Argentina
Latest News
Tue Jan 3 15:29:30 2012
Hi folks. We thought you might be interested in seeing this YouTube video put together by Dan Swanson, grandson of Arno and Coralee Enns who were our colleagues many years ago. They, as the Hoops/Enns family, decided not to exchange Christmas gifts as they traditionally do every year. Instead, they are donating toward the construction of the new Rio Lozano Camp chapel. You can imagine what a surprise this was for us! Nancy and I are also so thankful for those of you who, not only have been praying toward the completion of the chapel but have also sacrificed toward this useful instrument in reaching Argentines for the Lord and to strengthen His church. The first summer camp (children's) camp started today. Please pray that kids would come to Him for salvation as well as committing themselves to His will. We'll keep you up to date on the results after the six week summer program.
Nancy and I are keeping busy with a youth retreat in Abra Pampa, up in the mountains, officiating a wedding this coming Saturday evening, preaching every Sunday night and anticipating the start of seminary classes in the fall (Feb - May). Nancy's Women’s Bible studies are in full swing but without the full number of ladies expected. Thanks again for praying for us! We continue to depend on you as well as God's guidance.
Dave and Nancy Hello everyone one more time! I have two things for you: 1. The video that I put together for our Christmas day gathering is uploaded to YouTube and is located here: http://youtu.be/yHUOwegP2r8 Note: This is a private listing, so if you don’t have the link, you can’t find it. Yes, it is in HD. 2. Attached in this email is our Christmas picture that we took together (it’s also on Facebook, but this one is bigger for your printing needs) And Dave, The video I put together is a combination of the two videos you have on youtube, some of Shannon's pictures, some recent pictures of the chapel, a Google Earth video, and Los Fronterizos for music. I put the video together for our family when we were together on Christmas day. The purpose of the video was to give people who have never been there (myself) an idea of what life is like and where it is, and also for those who have been there to enjoy seeing something familiar. Grandpa (Arno) thought you would like to see it too. Enjoy!! Dan
Sat Dec 17 19:34:27 2011
See a recent letter.
Mon Nov 14 18:38:50 2011
Dear Friends,
We have been back in Jujuy practically two months since returning from our Home Assignment in the US. It was so good to see many of you, especially those of you who are in Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania. It was a short five month period there but we were able to visit 11 of our 19 supporting churches, most of our individual supporting friends, travel to Colorado for debriefings and physicals at our mission office and spend some time with our family. In all, we drove 25,000 miles in Dave's brother's and sister-in-law's little VW car. In general, our time there was very memorable albeit tiring, and, in our estimation, very fruitful. We hope that we were as much of an encouragement to you as you were to us. Your invaluable prayers are extending themselves to us as well as to our people here in the Jujuy area in so many evident ways.
Our praise and thanks are for the Lord in providing, through you, the funds to help buy the roof materials for the new camp chapel. Thanks so much for your part in this project. We're now hard at work welding the metal trusses together. It would be great if the tin roof sheets could be in place before the heavy summer rains and the campers arrive. We also depend on funds coming in from the various groups who rent the camp property for their weekend retreats. Please pray for this summer's camps (January and February) when so many children and youth make life-changing decisions for Christ. In spite of our more limited involvement out at the camp in comparison to past years, we still believe it's a very instrumental ministry that touches thousands of lives.
Dave is back teaching in the Extension Seminary program with his three groups as well as paying more attention to the mountain church association. We both were able to attend and participate in the annual conference at the end of October in La Quiaca which is on the Bolivian border at 12,000 ft. elevation. The eight churches in that area of the Andes are doing well as they slowly grow. Nancy has picked up more numbers of women for her Bible Studies in Palpalá. Dave, as field team leader for our mission, is busy preparing for the annual field conference which starts November 22nd. Many important decisions are to be made this year for the strategic planning process in NW Argentina that we're involved in. Thank you for praying regarding these items.
We feel we need to share an incident that happened to Nancy exactly a week ago. A man and woman forced their way into the house, choked her to the point that she passed out, dragged her across the floor, punched her in the face, and locked her in Dave's study in the back of the house. All the while, they yelled that they would kill her if she didn't give them money. Nancy was able to find a pair of pliers in Dave's desk drawer and managed to pry her way out of the metal door. She then went to the nearest Telecom calling center where she was able to call Dave who was gone for the day- about 30 minutes away. Praise God with us that she is alive. Along with the physical trauma, there is also emotional and spiritual trauma to deal with. As a family, Sara and Josh needed to come down to Argentina to be a support to their Mom and Dad. At the time of this writing, Josh has already arrived after the Peace Corps giving permission for his one week of absence from his work site in Guatemala. Sara arrives tonight (Monday) at 10 p.m. Her preparation for travel is a miracle in itself. She was able to get the last seat left on the Luftansa flight from Germany. Please pray for our son-in-law, David Hopson, who is taking care of our two granddaughters in Albania. In three weeks, Sara, baby Alexander and the Hopson family will be reunited in Chicago to start their home assignment. As you can imagine, we are so thankful that we can be together for these wonderful days. Our small family hasn't been together for a number of years so, in spite of the crisis we've just gone through, the Lord has brought us together once again. Missionary life and ministry has its inherent and necessary sacrifices like family separation so this is a very special occasion. Please praise the Lord and thank Him along with us for the covering of His grace and mercies. The Lord kept Nancy safe and allowed Dave to keep his help meet.
Again, thank for keeping us before the Lord during your prayer times. Thanks for being part of our team as we continue to minister among the people of Argentina.
Dave and Nancy Greenman
Sun Nov 13 21:03:22 2011
Here is a note from the Hobsons.
Mon Sep 26 12:22:17 2011
1. We praise the Lord for a safe return a few days ago to our field of ministry in NW Argentina.
2. We praise Him also for a wonderful time inaugurating the new plaza (small city park) dedicated to the Bible in San Pedro, 38 miles to the north of Jujuy where we live. This type of plaza is the first and only one in existence in our province! May the Lord use it as an instrument to reach others through His Word.
1. Please pray that God would give us wisdom in the decision regarding working in a struggling church (in Palpala, 7 miles to our east) that has asked for help.
2. Pray for the 25 seminary students that are under our care in the extension program, that they would grow in Christ and in their local church responsibilities.
3. Pray that our friends and contacts in Jujuy would have more interest in the gospel. We talk to them about Christ but would like to see more good results......in God's timing, of course.
4. Pray for our Greenman family. Sara and her family serving in Albania, and Josh, in Guatemala as a Peace Corps worker.
Sat Sep 10 15:15:35 2011
See their recent letter.
Mon Jul 4 14:56:35 2011
We’re writing to you from Kalamazoo, Michigan where we’re staying with our son, Josh, after having spent the first part of our home assignment in the city of Holland, also in Michigan. So far, we’ve been having an interesting summer helping care for Dave’s elderly parents and looking in on Nancy’s sister who lives near them. Our more serious church visits started in June when we traveled to southern Ohio to give our ministry report at a supporting church and to speak at their children’s camp. We believe God will direct some of them towards missions in their quest to serve Him. This month, we’ll be visiting friends and churches in central Michigan before driving out to our mission headquarters in Littleton, Colorado where we’re scheduled to go through debriefing and physical exams. Thanks for asking God for our safety over all the miles we need to travel. With the current high price of fuel, we thank Him for providing a very economical car. The most concentrated time for our visits will be in August when we’ll see five churches and a number of friends in Pennsylvania, New York and Illinois. Josh leaves for two years of working with the Peace Corps in Guatemala on August 9th so we plan to return from the east to see him off at the airport. A few days later, our friend, Emilia, arrives from Buenos Aires to start her studies at Moody Bible Institute. We hope to help her settle in before we head back to central Pennsylvania to continue visits to churches and friends. Our projected date for returning to Argentina is mid-September. As you may recall from your reading some of our latest letters, we asked you to pray that God would give us wisdom and the right kind of focus as we wind down our involvement among the Argentine people. We’re excited about the prospects of concentrating more on training church leaders through the Distance Seminary (extension) program. Dave has been asked to develop course material and to present seminars in some of the harder to reach places where churches don’t receive as much attention as the churches get in the centralized and more populated areas. Nancy plans to continue with her women’s ministries and Dave, the Lord permitting, will continue to visit the churches in the “puna” or high mountainous area of Jujuy. We’re still committed to completing the new chapel at Camp Río Lozano. We believe that this fund-raising project will be our final rally before officially retiring from our mission and ministry in Argentina. The chapel building is closer to the next and final step of installing the roof made of 65 corrugated tin sheets called “chapas”. Each one costs $75 or approximately $5,000 in total. Would you prayerfully consider helping with the purchase? So far, approximately $1,100 has been raised. The Río Lozano camping ministry has been such a blessing to thousands of Argentines these past 40 years and we would like those blessings to continue until Christ returns. Your gift can be sent to World Venture 1501 W. Mineral Ave. Littleton, CO 80120-5612 with a note saying “For Rio Lozano property improvement #6406-908” We sincerely thank you for your gift that will help God’s Kingdom in NW Argentina. Finally, we want to thank you for your faithfulness in praying for us along with our small family which will be spread over three different continents….Europe, Central and South America. We’re grateful for the internet connections that help maintain our family unity. Your friends and co-laborers in God’s vineyard in Argentina, Dave and Nancy Greenman
Tue May 3 22:20:30 2011
See the latest newsletter.
Sat Mar 19 18:02:17 2011
Greetings from Thessaloniki, Greece! We arrived on March 8th, exactly one week before our grandson, Alexander David Hopson, was born and after a number of days in Michigan to collect some much needed items for the baby and family. We’ve been taking care of our two grand-daughters, Miriam (4) and Sofia (almost 3) while Sara was in the hospital where David also stayed. We’ve been having such a great time visiting some ancient Byzantine churches and different ruins, including Berea where the Apostle Paul won some souls for the Lord back in Acts 17. We now plan to go see Philippi next week. This country is so full of history, culture and interesting people! What a blessing God is being to our family these days! We plan to stay in Greece for another week and a half until the US citizenship papers for the baby are complete. Son-in-law David wants to hike up Mount Olympus with his father-in-law Dave. From Greece we drive the four hours to Korce, Albania where the Hopsons have been living and ministering for a bit over a year. We plan to give seminars and Bible studies while there, with David and/or Sara interpreting from either English or Spanish into the local Albanian language. This is the first time we’ve had a decent excuse to travel to Europe. It would be nice to tour around more but, for the time-being, we’ll concentrate mainly on our family’s needs.
When we left Argentina the last part of February, we had no idea what was awaiting us in the US. We were notified that Nancy’s only remaining brother passed away while we were in Buenos Aires so we were able to attend his memorial service upon our arrival to Michigan. Dave’s mom (almost 89) was taken to the hospital the day we arrived to Chicago. Dave’s brothers and sister have been helping in caring for things and we see that this year, some important decisions will have to be made. Dad Greenman (almost 93) is doing OK but also has his physical challenges. We understand that God’s timing is always perfect and, again, we’ve experienced his limitless love and grace. We spent a bit of time with our son, Josh, in Kalamazoo, Michigan so we treasure that time, also, since he is planning to be working in the Peace Corps in Africa, Lord willing, starting in June.
We need to recuperate after a very strenuous 2010 in Argentina. Along with the camping ministry with its program, construction and maintenance, Dave was involved in teaching a seminary class in Salta (church growth), four extension seminary groups in San Pedro and Palpalá, giving seminars in two different high mountain and lower valley regions, leading the Argentine field team and orienting the new missionaries, the Hollingsworths as they settled into life in Jujuy. We’ve thoroughly enjoyed our 27 years in the camping ministry and have a hard time believing that it has come to an end. We have been blessed so much with such a fruitful work as Christian camping and still consider it to be a very important and effective tool to reach the unsaved for Christ and to strengthen the local church. We’ve been informed that 30 came to Him for salvation this past summer for which we praise the Lord. Upon our return to Argentina in September, Dave will continue to work on the new chapel construction project until it’s finished. It still needs the roof, the floor, windows and doors. He will also be writing extension seminary materials and teach the 25 + students who are well on their way in that training course. Nancy looks forward to continuing with her women’s Bible studies in Palpalá which has been in activity for the past seven years.
As you might have noticed, we’ve been very busy since we last wrote to you but it seems as if the Lord is allowing us to wind down little by little before our retirement in approximately five years. God provided replacements for the camp so now we will be able to concentrate more on leadership training which has been our field’s priority for many years. Please pray for us as we enter this new phase of life and ministry.
We hope to see many of you as we travel to visit the churches we missed during our last home assignment. May God bless you for your faithfulness in prayer and for your spiritual investments in the people of NW Argentina.
Your friends and co-workers in God’s Kingdom,
Dave and Nancy Greenman
Fri Mar 18 15:47:47 2011
Dear Friends, Just a quick note to say that Alexander David Hopson was born yesterday morning at 6:55am here in Thessaloniki, Greece weighing in at 3.5 Kilos (7 lb. 7oz)! Sara did an amazing job and both are healthy and well! Praise the Lord and thank you for your prayers. Here is a picture. More to follow soon when we have a better internet connection. David for all of us
Thu Jan 6 12:50:50 2011
Yesterday, Nancy and I found ourselves in the middle of the Argentina-Chile Dakar race, sandwiched between two big Toyota racing SUV's vying for position. What a blast! Two grandparents putting down the road with thousands of people on the sidelines waving at the racers and looking at us, wondering what we were doing there with our little white truck. When we came to a bridge, someone jumped out of the crowd waving wildly at us. Ha! It was a friend from Abra Pampa (to our north) who was watching the show and recognized us. We zoomed by flashing our lights and honking the horn.
Tue Dec 28 21:32:09 2010
See their year end summary.
Tue Oct 26 15:48:01 2010
Here is their recent note.
Mon Aug 9 19:29:27 2010
See a collection of recent pictures.
Mon Aug 9 11:59:03 2010
SNOW IN JUJUY!
Argentina has been experiencing the coldest winter in forty years and, two weeks ago, snow accumulated in places where it had NEVER snowed before! In fact, it snowed 8 inches at Camp Ro Lozano. People were wildly ecstatic, making large and small snowmen everywhere. We’ve NEVER seen it snow for two days and nights without stopping in this area. The energy strain on gas and electricity has caused the government to import these utilities instead of exporting them as is usually the case. It’s hard to believe that the temperatures in the whole country were lower than those in Antarctica! Our people suffered since their houses are designed for HOT weather and not for the COLD variety.
These might have made for some interesting headlines but the weather conditions made it a sad situation for the camps finances. Why? The place wasn’t designed for cold weather, either. Campers are forced to use the open-sided dining commons for all of their indoor activities since the new chapel is still under construction. The cold wind whips through and the campers shiver in spite of the partial protection of side curtains and the use of blankets on top of their winter jackets. You can imagine the results of the deep freeze. Four groups canceled their reservations in July which means no income from rentals. The good news is that spring weather is just around the corner and now the camp is scheduled for just about every weekend until December.
CAMP FRUITFULNESS!
The Lord has been blessing us so much by the encouraging notes that we’ve received from the campers. One Junior Higher writes I have been attending (family, children and adolescent camps) since I was two years old. There’s no other place that matches it! Alex, who met his wife there, says “That place was used to change my life in many ways!” PLEASE PRAY that the Lord would continue to use Camp Ro Lozano for His praise and honor. Over 3,000 people attend every year. The camp committee is now planning our summer camping program. January 8th through February 19th.
NEW CHAPEL CONSTRUCTION PROGRESS!
The stone and brick walls are practically up but the details on the front porch and the fireplace will take a few more months to complete. So many are asking when it will get done so we reply hopefully by next year! This past week, 7 volunteers went out to help hoist the 4,000 pound wood fireplace mantle into place. We plan to have a BIG praise celebration and ribbon-cutting ceremony when the big building is finished! Your tax-deductible gifts toward this project are always welcome. They can be sent to World Venture 1510 W. Mineral Ave. Littleton, CO 80120-5612 with a note For camp construction-NW Argentina
NEW MISSIONARIES AND CAMP WORKERS!
The Hollingsworths, our newest missionary family, originating from Salem Oregon, has arrived and has settled into living in Jujuy. They’re making progress in adapting to their surroundings, making new friends and finding what the Lord would have them to be involved in. Their main interest is the camping program so, Lord willing, plan to take over our ministry before we retire in five years.
Mon Aug 9 11:53:34 2010
WE FIND MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO MINISTER TO OTHERS!
We continue to pray for our neighbors with whom we have had more chances to witness to. We know that God can soften their hearts in His way and in His timing. Nancy has been baking good things to give to them, making contacts and sharing the love for the Lord in that way. I was able to give a Bible to friends across the street. The husband is very difficult to talk to but the wife is willing to listen. Please remember them in your prayers. We want to see them become part of Gods family.
Nancy continues to have very good results with her women’s Bible study in Palpal (7 miles to the east of Jujuy). There are seven who enjoy the weekly sessions.
Dave has a busy speaking schedule in all of the Jujuy area churches plus his trips into the mountains for conferences. He continues with the two theology classes with ten students in San Pedro (38 miles from Jujuy) and there’s a new one in formation in the Jujuy area with a potential of twelve more. Eight of them are from one dynamic church in Palpal. Please pray that they would be faithful and serious in their studies and that solid local church leaders would result from these efforts.
LAST, BUT NOT LEASTSOME VERY EXCITING FAMILY NEWS!
The Hopsons (David and Sara) in Albania, recently told us that we will become grandparents once again, for the third time, next March! They are planning for the birth to be in the city of Thessaloniki, Greece which will make him/her the first Thessalonian in our family! Please continue to pray for the Hopsons. The Albanian language is very difficult to learn and their busy schedule of ministry and family responsibilities makes learning a bit of a challenging struggle.
Our son Josh is still working at the Tillers International farm in Scotts, Michigan. He’s been learning sustainable agriculture, training oxen, plowing with horses, working with bees, making tools in the blacksmith shop, etc. in order to put his skills to use, if the Lord wills it, in Africa. He needs prayer regarding future work.
Thanks for faithfully praying for us. God has blessed both of us in our personal as well as in our family life. Your being an integral part of our team is encouraging and has been a blessing in a special way, too.
Dave and Nancy Greenman
Jujuy, Argentina
Fri Mar 26 14:43:37 2010
See their prayer request for their new missionaries.
Sun Mar 21 13:33:55 2010
Here is a directory full of photos from their trip to Tierra del Fuego. They are all rather small photos so they download quickly.
Fri Mar 12 12:52:16 2010
Hi Tom,
Nancy, Josh and I returned from our 7,000 mile trip to the southern tip of South America about an hour ago and are completely exhausted. Now to recuperate from our vacation, right? Ha! We had a fantastic time and it was worth all the effort and time spent behind the wheel and visiting long-lost friends and seeing almost all of the national parks in the lake district of SW Argentina. We would recommend the trip to anyone! We followed route 40 all along the foothills of the Andes mtns. and came back the fast route in the eastern flatlands which were a bit boring. Patagonia has its good sides and ugly sides, you know. The national parks were the most beautiful we've ever seen and rival the Grand Tetons, Yellowstone, Banff, in the western US area. We planned so that it would be at the end of the tourist season so we had our pick of the best camping spots. Yes, we camped all the way down and back as well as picnicked to save the bucks. The restaurant and hotel prices down there are downright awful and embarrassing so we concentrated on the outdoor scenes. I'll try to post some pictures soon. We took dozens of shots, of course. It was especially meaningful to us that Josh accompanied us since we think it may be years before he returns to be with us here.
Regarding your question about the terrible earthquake in Chile.......We weren't too far away from it but we must have been sound asleep in some camping area....totally exhausted from the day's activities......so we didn't feel it at all! Thanks for your concern, anyway.
Will write again soon. Take care and God bless.
Dave and Nancy
Mon Feb 15 16:19:39 2010
Here is their recent letter including a photo.
Mon Feb 15 13:18:55 2010
GOD GAVE ENOUGH ENERGY TO KEEP UP WITH THE CAMP DEMANDS!
The six weeks of summer camps are over! We are completely wiped out and we think it would be great to take a long nap under a shade tree, on some nice soft grass, with the sound of a gurgling stream to lull us to sleep. Doesn’t THAT sound like a good solution to give our weary bones a rest? Looking back on this past summer, we are reminded that Christian camping is a very valuable instrument in God’s hands. The camp committees and program directors did their work well. God provided the speakers…..two from Bolivia and two from N. Argentina, all the necessary cooks, all the prepared counselors and all the funds. We are very grateful for the fruit God has given. 27 came to Jesus for salvation. Over 200 dedicated their lives to him for service and to focus on a holy walk with Him. Many lives have been changed through the working of the Holy Spirit, His Word as well as through the great efforts of the volunteer staff. 775 attended with another 100 more campers renting the place for their own retreats before classes start the first week of March. It was an unusually warm and dry season which made it so the campers could enjoy the out of doors more. What a contrast to the heavy rains in past years! We were happy to be here at 5,000 ft. elevation with 90-degree weather instead of in the lower subtropical areas where some temperatures were close to 130° F. Thanks so much for praying for Camp Río Lozano during the months of January and February. There are different challenges every year and, this year, the police showed up one late night, called in by neighbors who complained about the loud noise made by 165 active and restless campers. We have been literally stretched to the limits of a grandparent’s physical endurance but are so overjoyed by God’s blessings and faithfulness. Now it’s OUR turn to go on vacation after buying tons of food, managing the kitchen, doing maintenance work, transporting cooks and preachers, taking kids and youth to the hospital with various ailments as coaching the program directors. This has actually been a very different camping season with trips to attend two weddings in Jujuy and Salta, a big birthday party in Palpalá and spending our 36th wedding anniversary, also in Salta, where we did several errands topped off by a great time alone at our favorite restaurant. To finish the summer, we welcomed our field’s newest missionary team- members, the Hollingsworths, with their four children and dog, Gus. Please pray for them as they get acculturated and ease into ministry.
Yes, we need a good vacation. We plan to drive to the southern areas of Argentina, 3,500 miles away, to see places we have only read about and never been to during our 26 years in this beautiful country. Our son, Josh, is here and plans to accompany us. Have you ever heard of Ushuaia, the southernmost city of the world? We plan to go there and, along the way, see different national parks and visit some friends we haven’t seen in years. After returning north, we plan, the Lord willing, of course, to continue with our leadership training classes in San Pedro and Palpalá. We have a bit of family good news to share with you! David and Sara Hopson with our two granddaughters, Miriam and Sofia, are now in Albania, settled in their apartment and are ready to start intensive language study. Please pray that they would be fruitful as they prepare Albanian missionaries to reach fellow Albanians who have immigrated to neighboring countries looking for jobs.
Our son, Josh, is now with us until mid-March after working with Samaritan’s Purse in the Bolivian highlands for six months. He plans to work with Tillers International, an organization involved in non-mechanized farming, doing research and teaching farmers around the world how to work wisely for more productive harvests. Pray that the Lord would show Josh what steps to take in the future. Our lives are in God’s hands. He has blessed in so many ways, including giving you to us as an important part of our team. Thank you, again, for praying diligently and faithfully for us as well as for those we work with.
Dave and Nancy Greenman
Thu Dec 31 17:45:45 2009
Happy New Year 2010! Our summer camps start this Saturday January 2nd with the children. PLEASE PRAY FOR ALL THE CAMPERS AND STAFF DURING ALL SIX WEEKS! The season ends on February 13th, with family camp.
Thu Dec 24 22:20:17 2009
Happy Christmas Eve's Day to you! May this time of year bring real joy as you celebrate our Savior's birth and as we step into another year. We plan to spend this evening with good friends from the Alto Comedero church. It's interesting that Argentines don't have the custom of exchanging gifts but they DO have a Christmas tree and ornaments! The biggest activity is to just eat a big asado (barbecue) with friends or family and then, at midnight, shoot off fireworks which light up the sky.
Our son, Josh, is with us this year, after returning from Bolivia where he finished up his 6 months of working with Samaritan's Purse. His ministry was to help the poor at 13,000 feet by providing water wells and planting trees along with teaching farmers how to produce better crops of potatoes. He made many friends, especially in the La Paz area where he stayed during the weekends. Please pray for his future preparations as he'd like to go to Africa to teach sustainable agriculture as a way to help people find Jesus. In the meantime, he plans to stay in South America until mid-March, after spending time with us, touring a number of neighboring countries with a couple of Taylor U. friends as well as helping out at a couple of camps.
The Hopson family (David, Sara and our two little grand-daughters, Miriam and Sofia) is scheduled to leave for Albania on January 14th. We praise the Lord for allowing them to reach their support goals. Thanks for praying for them as they reach Albanians for Christ and as they train missionaries in the church in Korce (pronounced "Corcha") near the Greek border.
Our extended family is doing well in the US. My dad will be celebrating his 91st birthday on Dec. 27th and Mom is aiming at her 88th next year. We always keep in touch with our siblings, too.....John in Texas, Patty in Wisconsin, Dick in Chicago and also, Nancy's brother Henry and sister Leta in Michigan.
Yesterday, we spent a warm and sweaty day out at the camp and, with the Lord's protection and strength, 10 volunteers were able to lift 6 more big logs over the new chapel's doors and windows. Nancy and a young girl, Andrea, fixed a good and wholesome lunch for the exhausted and hungry men. The total so far is 19 logs weighing an average of 600 - 700 lbs. each. The two largest ones will have to wait until next year after the fireplace is made. It's hard to believe that the mantle itself weighs 4,000 lbs! We're encouraged at the progress but it's still going to take a lot more to finish. Perhaps next year?
Last night I showed a good Christmas video at the Manantial de Vida church in Alto Palpalá. The youth group got permission from the municipality to block off the street to hold an evangelistic service in the open air in front of their church. At the end of the program, small fruitcakes were giving out to the visitors. I was completely wiped out physically but the Lord blessed me, too. His Word is being spread by the next generation that has come up and we know that they love and are dedicated to Christ.
The camp committee and their teams are all set for this summer's progam. The six weeks of the 2010 camps start on Jan 2nd and end on Feb. 13th with the theme of "YES, COME LORD JESUS" using I Peter 4:7 as the main Scripture reference. We'll be touching on some prophecy but, mostly, helping our campers to prepare for Christ's return practicing holiness, obedience and being fruitful for Him. Thanks for praying for everyone involved.....the speakers (from Bolivia and Argentina), the directors, the counselors, the cooks, the musicians, and, especially, for the many campers and their spiritual needs.
We hope and pray that you are well and that you would remain faithful to God's calling for your life in Him. May He continue to bless you with spiritual growth and love for Him. With all the calamities around us, we can still put our focus on Him and on His promises. We sincerely appreciate your friendship and love as we know you pray for us and support us in the ministry He has called us to do here in NW Argentina. You and we are not working in vain.
Your friends and coworkers with Christ,
Dave and Nancy
Tue Dec 1 15:17:35 2009
See their chapel building photos.
Fri Oct 23 23:35:03 2009
See their recent newsletter.
Fri Oct 2 13:10:35 2009
Nancy and I hope you're doing well there in Chicago, enjoying the fall weather and other benefits. It's almost summer here but we haven't had any warmth for a while. It did snow only once this past winter, the day our camp caretaker passed away. It was bitter for here since there's no central heating. Tomorrow I drive into the mountains again to give some seminars to the mountain church leaders. Brrrr! It's ALWAYS cold up there....even in the sunshine.
Wed Sep 2 21:11:17 2009
Photos from the Bolivia trip and another chapel photo.
Tue Sep 1 15:44:34 2009
Here are a couple of recent photos.
Sat Aug 22 16:52:36 2009
See a Greenman family photo.
Mon May 18 16:50:54 2009
See a short video from the Greenmans on Youtube.
Mon Apr 27 18:31:17 2009
See a brief note and photo.
Thu Apr 16 12:24:20 2009
My dad, Bob Greenman, went to his doctor today who showed both Dad and Mom the test results from his two-night stay at the hospital. They show that Dad definitely had a TIA or a mild stroke. He's now on Lipitor and an aspirin a day to thin his blood. The doctor says that he can drive but they've decided not to drive any long distances away from home. He should be back to normal in another couple of weeks but must take some speech therapy to get some verbal coordination back. He can even preach in another four weeks but.....they've decided that this would just be a good time for total retirement from ministry. Thanks for praying for our folks. They've been investigating moving into a retirement home but say the cost is, in their own words."more than they can afford". Time will tell.
Dave
Thu Apr 9 11:53:07 2009
Yesterday morning I spoke to a group of retired men where Dad usually attends. I explained to them that they tested Dad with a cat scan at the hospital and they didn't find anything. Now THAT got a big laugh out of them! What I SHOULD have said was that they didn't find anything WRONG. Well, Dad had all kinds of tests done on him yesterday and they all came out negative! We think that is quite weird because SOMETHING DID HAPPEN TO HIM! He acts as if he had a mini-stroke with mental blocks and loss of train of thought. He has a hard time getting thoughts to be verbalized so talks in a paused and deliberate fashion, having to think hard before he says something. Anyway, he went back home at 3 p.m. and is with Mom now. Some good friends picked him up at the emergency room entrance. He says that they fed him way too much so he feels stuffed. Oh, I forgot to ask him if the doctor is allowing him to drive. Mom hopes so since the car is their "wings" and freedom to go where they wish...... like to pick up groceries, go to church, etc. It was of the Lord that we were in Sparta several days so we could help out. Mom said that she had a good night staying by herself with no noise to bother her or people to "entertain". I could tell, however, by the sound of her voice, that she was glad to have Dad back. He did leave a big void there while he was gone. Nancy and I got a number of things accomplished like banking, interview with the "new church" missions committee, working on our prayer letter list among other things. By the way, we are completely phasing out our letters sent through the postal service and making the transition to free and easier email. That will save a lot of $$ along with saving all kinds of time and work for Dad and Mom who have been sending them out for as long as we've been on the field......25 years! OK. Enough bla bla bla which I'm quite famous for. Thanks for praying and stay tuned for further developments.
Nancy should be coming in at any moment from Upland, IN (Taylor U.) with my cousin, Jennifer Greenman and Josh, who will be with us for the weekend. Pray for us as we go to an MK/TCK retreat in N. Indiana Friday and Saturday. My talks will be about "WE WERE BORN TO MAKE A MARK" and "CLOSURE AND GOODBYE TO OUR PAST?" tying it in with Christ's resurrection and what it means in our lives. Mother Theresa said "I am a little pencil in the hand of a writing God who is sending a love letter to the world". When I graduated from high school a bit less than 85 years ago, (ha!) ,a girl I had a crush on (she didn't like me, which was a good thing for Nancy!) gave me a card that said "Go out there and make a mark on the world" I opened the card and there was a little pencil. Interesting, huh? We need to make marks on the world by telling it about how wonderful our Lord is......preaching his life-giving death and resurrection. OH NO!!!! There I go preaching again. Sorry! :-( I promise to sign off NOW!
Friend,
Dave
Tue Apr 7 12:19:00 2009
Hi to our friends,
Nancy and I got to Sparta on Saturday and noticed that Dad had some slight stroke symptoms. His speech was more paused than normal so I asked him "How are you doing?" He answered "I have mental blocks and constantly lose my train of thought". I commented to both Dad and Mom that it could be a stroke. "Oh, no!" they answered. "It's from taking a medicine to treat a urinary tract problem so he's discontinued taking it." I told them that Dad has to see a doctor immediately. These symptoms had gone on for at least four days. Nancy and I came to Sparta to meet with another church with the possibilities of more support (which we badly need) so we planned to stay through today (Tuesday). On Saturday night I asked Dad "How is your sermon preparation going?" "Terrible" he said. I can't concentrate and can't get anywhere." I told him that he better not drive anywhere and to get someone else to preach at the Meadowlark Retirement Home where he ministers to the "old folks". By the way, Dad had his 90th birthday the end of December. We went to the church and Dad preached anyway. He drove anyway. When we saw them again on Sunday afternoon, I asked "How did your sermon go?" His answer was "It was a disaster!" "Are you improving any?" "Perhaps a bit." Yesterday, after lunch, Nancy and I went twenty minutes away to Sand Lake and a visit to her sister, Leta since we hadn't seen her for quite some time. About 20 minutes into our visit, Mom called saying "Please come back to take Dad to emergency in Grand Rapids." (15 miles south of Sparta). The doctor says that he can't drive anywhere and it might have been a stroke and is preparing for a more massive one. He needs a cat scan of the head." We hurried back and took him to emergency, waiting 2 hours for the scan. Nancy stayed with him while I hurried back to Sparta to a missions committee interview with the new church. Everyone had gotten the news so that meant that Mom had been on the phone calling all of Kent County. I had to dispel a few rumors that had already started. The meeting went well with prayer for Dad included. Getting home, Mom said that Nancy had called to say that Dad will be staying overnight for further studies since the cat scan didn't show anything out of the ordinary. He'll be given more tests today for carotid blockage, EKG as well as others. Thanks for praying for Dad. He doesn't want to be in the hospital and doesn't want to be a bother to anyone. He's been the epitome of health for most of his 90 years and Mom, who has more serious health issues, has depended on him as her caregiver while living by themselves in their little Sparta house. Last night, Mom was showing signs of stress so we took her pulse and blood pressure. She needed to sleep since it was past her usual time for bed. Nancy and I are willing to stay until tomorrow but there are many here in Sparta who are willing to help out, too. So......please pray regarding the test results. We know that everyone who know him is concerned.
Sun Mar 22 20:26:14 2009
*WE'RE COUNTING GOD'S BLESSINGS...NAMING THEM ONE BY ONE!!!* As many of you, our friends, may know, we are now in the US on a 6 month home assignment. We're at the half-way mark and time has flown by so fast and it's hard to believe we'll be back in Jujuy by the first part of July. Our goal is to visit at least half of our supporting churches and most of our supporting friends. If you feel as if you're left out of our schedule, be assured that we will visit you in the fall of 2011, our next scheduled home assignment. In the meantime, we'll be sending all of you a DVD with pictures to bring you up to date on what the Lord is allowing to happen among the churches and the camp program in Argentina as well as in our lives and ministry. *GOD IS BLESSING US* this year as we're enjoying important milestones in the lives of certain members of our family. December 16 - 21 Time with older brother John Greenman's family in Texas December 25th Christmas with our son Josh and the Hopson's (our daughter Sara's family) in Kalamazoo, Michigan December 27th Celebration of Dad Greenman's 90th birthday in Sparta, Michigan which we also used as a Greenman family reunion March 19 - 20 Time with sister Patty's in Wisconsin May 16th Emily Greenman's wedding. She is Dave's youngest cousin. May 23rd Josh graduates from Taylor University, Upland, Indiana. He majored in History and International Studies with a minor in Spanish. *PLEASE PRAY* for safety as we travel the many miles. After six weeks of traveling in a borrowed car, the transmission died so we're now using Josh's little Honda sports car. The following is a general schedule of visits and activities. January 18 - 31 Medical exams and our mission's Renewal Conference in Denver, Colorado February Various medical and dental exams, some family time March 1st Emanuel Fellowship, Grant, Michigan March 8th Rice Lake, Michigan Spanish-speaking church March 15th Calvary Church Muscatine, Iowa March 19 - 22 Windy City Community Church, Chicago, Illinois March 23 - 24 South Church, Lansing, Michigan March 29th Faith Baptist Church, Decatur, Illinois April 10 - 11 Speak at an MK (missionary kid) college age retreat in N Indiana April 19th Ganson St. Baptist, Jackson, Michigan April 26th First Baptist of Plainwell, Michigan May 3rd Indian Lake Baptist Church in upper-state New York May 10th Cato Union Church, Cato, New York May 17th Bethel Baptist Church, Jackson, Michigan June 7th First Baptist Church, Spring Lake, Michigan (tentative) June 15 - 19 South Church Vacation Bible School, Lansing, Michigan July 1st Fly to Argentina from Houston, Texas Various dates are still in the process of being scheduled for visits. *NEWS FROM ARGENTINA* * *It encourages us to hear that the camping season went well this past summer (January and February) with the normal challenges of a few things breaking down, overflowing septic systems, etc. About 900 campers attended and a good number accepted the Lord Jesus for salvation. We've received letters saying that they even missed us, which makes us feel needed and wanted. *PROGRESS ON THE NEW CAMP CHAPEL CONSTRUCTION FUND RAISING * * *We are closing in quite fast on reaching our goal of raising the needed $20,000 dollars for the new chapel at Camp Rio Lozano. Please thank the Lord along with us that we're at the $16,000 mark as we continue to depend on God and His people to provide the remaining amount. The walls are approximately half-way up and the worker is currently waiting for the rains to let up in order to continue, perhaps in April. Please don't forget that the matching funds program is still in effect until we reach the targeted amount needed. If you feel you would like to help out, any gift can be sent to World Venture 1501 W. Mineral Ave. Littleton, CO 80120 with a note saying "for camp construction in NW Argentina". Thank you for your help! *FAMILY UPDATES * * *David and Sara Hopson, with two granddaughters, Miriam and Sofia, are hoping to leave for Albania in September to minister in church development and leadership preparation, training Albanian missionaries to reach their people in neighboring countries. Josh will be spending the last five months of 2009 with Samaritan's Purse in SW Bolivia at 13,000 feet elevation helping in the digging of water wells for impoverished people. We're using Dave's Portuguese uncle's and aunt's (Mois's and Rosemary Gomes) house in Kalamazoo, Michigan. Thanks so very much for praying and standing behind us in the great and wonderful plan God has for His church in NW Argentina. Dave and Nancy Greenman Email: greenmanenator@gmail.com
Sun Dec 7 22:09:49 2008
See their November Newsletter.
Tue May 20 12:00:23 2008
Do you know what I appreciate about being back home from the mountain conference trips? Rest, hot baths, clean floors, communicating with those far away, etc etc but but but............!!!!!....... more than ever before, I REALLY enjoyed my trip up to the puna area to encourage the faithful. I spoke on God's will, His providence and pre-destination/man's responsibility. There was one gal who I noticed was all smiles taking in what the Word says. It was both evangelistic as well as edifying to the saints and, at the end of the first message, she went up front and said "I want to accept Christ NOW!" An invitation wasn't even given. She was surprised later to find out that, at the same time she was praying for Christ to enter her life, during the children's classes, her oldest son was also doing the same thing! Wow! Praise our wonderful Lord! We're now praying that her husband, Wilfredo, would accept the Lord, too. At night I showed the films "Like a Thief in the night" and its sequel "Distant Thunder".......sort of dated from 1972 with funny styles but nobody up there cared about that. Everyone was SOOOO attentive. The leader of that fledgling church considers me as the founder since I took the short term mission DELTA group up to open the work in '99. Well, it was the Lord who did it through us back then. Little did we know what would happen and now they're building their own church building! What a joy to see God at work shining His light in that dark and out-of-the-way place! You might remember my mentioning that town in a past prayer letter. Oratorio got its name years ago when travelers stopped with their llama and donkey trains to pray (orar) to the idols found there. The majority of the people still have hearts of stone but.......they're softening little by little to the Lord.
Today I am concentrating on resting a bit since I'm sort of limp. I didn't feel a bit of puna (high altitude discomfort) up there this time around but the weekend, as usual, took a bit of umph out of me physically. I never feel tired being at 13,000 ft. but then......back down in Jujuy.....I feel the weariness. So.....I now am relaxing, also doing a few chores around the house in order to get the place ready. You see, Nancy's coming back from Chicago where she went to help take care of the Hopsons when our second granddaughter, Sofi Abigail was born. Thanks for praying for us through this time of separation.
I'm also praising the Lord that the gas installer is now working on the last stage of connecting all the ovens, stoves and hot water heater out at the camp. At the same time, the new camp chapel walls continue to go up and I'm realizing more and more how beautiful it will be when finished.
A final prayer request. Pray as I teach a series of Bible studies at the Palpalá Olivos church starting this week. It's good to see believers who hunger for the Lord in their spiritual growth.
Your friend and co-worker in Jujuy.
Dave
Thu Apr 17 11:51:12 2008
Just a note to inform you that Sofia Abigail Hopson was born to David and Sara, today, Wednesday, April 16th, at 2:32 p.m. 7 lbs. 1 oz. and 19 1/2 inches. She looks more like a Hopson than Miriam with a different nose and a bit darker hair. Sara had uncomfortable contractions since Sunday so the midwife told David to make a milkshake with a bit of castor oil. That did the trick. She only had to push 10 minutes and.......voilá!!! She'll be at the hospital 24 hours before going home. Thanks for praying! We are so excited about this beautiful and healthy granddaughter number two! Nancy has been cooking milanesas and other good Argentine recipes as well as babysitting Miriam. Today she put on her walking shoes and walked, pushing Miriam in her stroller for SIX hours! That grandma sure is in good shape, isn't she?
Thanks for praising the Lord with us.
Dave
Sun Mar 30 12:11:27 2008
MORE SUMMER CAMP BLESSINGS!
We know that statistics don’t describe the full picture but here are a few from this past summer’s camp at Río Lozano, Jujuy. (January and February 2008)
Total number of campers for 6 weeks: 518
Number of workers (counselors, cooks, directors, etc.) 161
Number of those who received Christ for salvation: 26
Number of lives rededicated to Christ: Many dozens upon dozens.
Number of those hurried to the emergency room 13 miles away in Jujuy: 6
Donations from campers toward the construction of the new chapel: $618 dollars
Number of main meals served: (Lunch and evening) 9,506
Number of secondary meals served: (Breakfast and tea) 9,506
A sampling of food bought and hauled to the camp:
Flour for bread and pizza: 1,870 lbs.
Potatoes: 2,024 lbs.
Sugar: 770 lbs.
Chicken: 388lbs.
Beef: 1,070 lbs.
Eggs: 1,830
Breaded veal sandwiches made: 1,358
Cheese: 273 lbs. plus…….. a lot of noodles, good vegetables, fresh fruit, and junk food for the country store.
All in all, God blessed even more than what we had expected. Thanks for praying us through another season! It took more than a week for Nancy and me to recuperate our strength but, what can you expect from a grandpa and a grandma?
NEW CHAPEL CONSTRUCTION AND A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE!
All of the new chapel’s footings and steel columns are in place and waiting for the stone and brick walls, concrete, 20 windows and 6
doors to go up. That’s our next step and we thank the Lord that we are still debt-free. Many have asked “When will it be finished?” We answer “Within two years, the Lord willing.” It’s a huge project and we’re depending on you to pray the walls up. A few churches are sending volunteers to dig and haul fill-in dirt. As you can see in a statistic above, campers have donated enough to buy 4,000 bricks for the inside walls. Now here’s some very good news. For months we have been praying for the Lord to provide funds to finish the work. We had no idea where they might come from but, from past experience, we knew the Lord sends it through those who are interested and love the camp and the campers. A letter arrived recently from a friend. He wrote:
“My wife and I would like to be involved in the chapel fund raising, so here is an idea to prompt others to get involved as well back here in the States. We would like to match the funds you can encourage from others up to $10,000. My hope is that a note or invitation in your next news letter, stating that you have an anonymous donor to do the match would stimulate some giving to a great project.”
We immediately wrote back saying “You are a big answer to prayer and we thank the Lord for you and your generosity.” Nancy and I would now like to encourage you to join us in this fund raising project so that chapel could go up and be a blessing to the many thousands of Río Lozano campers. Your dollar sent in would instantly become two! If the Lord leads you to help, please send your tax-deductible gift with a note stating “For construction at Camp Río Lozano, Jujuy, Argentina” to
WorldVenture
1501 W. Mineral Ave.
Littleton, CO 80120-5612
THANKS FOR PRAYING FOR OUR FAMILY!
David and Sara Hopson, our son-in-law and daughter, are expecting our second grandchild around April 13th! Nancy plans to be in Chicago to help out including taking care of 20 month-old Miriam. Many of you have been praying for the Hopson’s ministry in Albania and the Lord is answering by slowly but surely bringing in their support commitments which are now at about 10% closer to their goal.
Josh is enjoying studying in his exchange program at Lithuania Christian College in Klaipeda which is on the Baltic coast. Along with his studies, he has been editing historical writings for a university professor as well as going on archaeological digs. He is also looking for Maciulaitis family members since his grandparents, Nancy’s folks, were from Lithuania. During school outings, he has been able to visit Russia and Poland and plans to visit friends in several other European countries. This fall will start his last year of studies at Taylor University.
Thanks for praying for Nancy and me as we are involved in mentoring leaders of two regional church associations (Jujuy area and in the mountains). The seminary at a distance (home) study program has two new groups joining soon. The youth, in particular, are discovering their need to get trained. Nancy will continue with her women’s Bible study when she returns from the US.
We are so grateful for your faithfulness in praying and giving. Our last request is that you pray that our 17% support deficit would be cared for. As we have mentioned above, God knows what our needs are and He will provide.
Your friends serving together in NW Argentina,
Dave and Nancy Greenman
Mon Mar 3 13:13:51 2008
Hi to our greatest and dearest friends,
My father-in-law, Henry George Maciulaitis would have been 110 years old this past January. He and Nancy's mom, Lena, came over to Michigan in 1930 from Lithuania to find a new and better life, bringing only a small suitcase and some wedding pictures as well as Nancy's oldest brother who was born in the old country. In Michigan, Dad Maciulaitis worked as a night watchman at a big Grand Rapids bakery and, during the day, worked a small farm with about 30 milk cows. They never went back to Lithuania and completely lost contact with the family there. Some of you may know that our son, Josh, is now in Lithuania studying at Lithuania Christian College in the city of Klaipeda. His four months as an exchange student will give him credit toward his final degree at Taylor University in Upland, Indiana where he's majoring in history, Spanish and international studies to someday become a history professor. Nancy thought it would be a good idea to do some detective work to, perhaps, find some of the Maciulaitis relatives. We FAXed copies of Dad's old Lithuanian passport and a couple of other documents to Josh to allow him to start his search. One of his professors is Lithuanian and speaks English so he showed the papers to her. She looked at them and said "Hey, I have relatives with the Maciulaitis name in the same town that your grandfather was from. I even know the church where he was baptized (Lutheran). I'll ask my grandfather if he knows how Henry George might fit into the family tree." Stay tuned for the rest of the story. There could be some interesting discoveries in the near future. Josh and I were joking yesterday saying that he might inherit an old castle or some family jewels. Ha! Yeah, sure!
Nancy and I sincerely are thankful for your prayers during this summer's camping season. We had almost 700 campers in 6 weeks, serving 9,500 main meals and 9,500 secondary meals (breakfast and mid-afternoon tea). You can imagine the tons of fresh vegetables, potatoes, meat, fruit and flour hauled by our poor old pickup truck but, most importantly, over 26 came to the Lord for salvation and dozens upon dozens rededicated their lives to Him. Folks, camp work is well worth the effort! We are witnesses! We had a minimum of problems this year since the directors and counselors get more experienced and better-trained as the years go by. I believe we took about 5 - 6 to the emergency room with nothing extremely serious. It's also worth mentioning that, this summer, we took up an offering every week for the new chapel construction and about $1,000 pesos came in! This translates into almost $325 dollars or 2,000 first rate bricks. Everyone was surprised to hear the grand total during our final week of family camp.
Now, please pray for our recuperation. Our bodies are worn out but a bit of rest will do the trick.
The camp has already been reserved by a good number of groups for 2008 which surprises us because the open-sided dining area has to be used as a temporary chapel. During the colder days this past winter, campers came wrapped up in warm blankets to ward off the winds during their meetings. Everyone asks us "When will the new chapel be finished?" We can only say "Within two years? Only the Lord knows." We estimate that it will cost $20,000 dollars to finish since its BIG and building with stone, brick and mortar takes time. At this moment, our camp construction special project account is at zero but we are trusting that the Lord will provide everything needed when it's needed. This is the biggest construction project we have attempted in the 40 years of the camp's history. Would you like to join us in completing it? We are convinced that this is a way to continue investing in people's lives for God's glory here in NW Argentina! A couple of years ago when we were planning to build, my dad asked "Do you have the money?" I could only reply "No, not right now, but God always provides! He hasn't let us down yet!" Please prayerfully consider this request. The Lord enjoys doing miracles and it's always best when He does them through us. If you want to join us in this project, please send whatever you decide to
WorldVenture
1501 W. Mineral Ave.
Littleton, CO 80120, and write "For Camp Río Lozano, Argentina, construction of the new chapel." Thanks so much for your help and, if you can't financially, could you please pray that it would be completed before too many more winters go by? May God get ALL of the honor in this endeavor.
Your friends in Jujuy, Argentina
Dave and Nancy Greenman
Tue Feb 12 15:42:56 2008
This past Saturday was the first day of our last camp for the summer season.....for entire families. There are about 200 individuals piled up out there and we have special activities and meetings for everyone......even for the smallest children. I notice that a couple of fellas can't stand crying babies in their bedrooms so are sleeping in the back of their pickups. One family traveled 440 miles and had seven in their little four-seater car with a bunch of luggage tied to the roof. The rains have stopped, the sun is warming things up and soaked tennis shoes are drying out. Hector Juarez, the speaker, is doing an excellent job and a number of personal decisions have already been made to follow Christ. Nancy is having a bit of a challenge with the main cook because she doesn't make enough food. That is Nancy's specialty so she'd like things to turn out correctly. Nonetheless, thanks for praying for good spiritual results. We depend on you. We're very tired but I think we'll make it and we know that a few days of rest are waiting for us starting this Sunday.
Friends in Jujuy,
Dave and Nancy
Sun Feb 3 12:57:40 2008
Subject: a note from Jujuy
About 125 now at the adolescents camp which is much more manageable than last week's 205. Last week 7 accepted the Lord including a girl who was an atheist. Happy Days! So far, 25 have come to the Lord for salvation during this camping season. $3000 pesos (about $1,000 dollars) were spent on junk food at the kiosco last week! Don't tell me there ain't money in Argentina! Yesterday, going down a Jujuy street, we came upon a bunch of people who were standing watching a dogfight. They had no idea what to do and acted desperate. There was a pit bull with his jaws clamped on another dog's head and wouldn't let go. I jumped out of the truck yelling "the dog's gonna kill him! We gotta do somethin'!" I've been taught that bending a dog's tail will make him let go of the other dog so I bent the pit bull's tail until I thought it was going to snap off. Nope. It didn't phase him. The owner, who had him by a leash said "Be careful!" I said "OK. I will!" My last resort was to give the pit bull a HUGE kick on the head that made him let go. I went home with Nancy quite nervous and high-strung. What an adventure! Four weeks down and two to go until it's our turn for a break. Thanks for praying. We're holding up but our batteries need a recharge.
Dave and Nancy
Mon Dec 31 15:47:02 2007
We just realized that the end of 2007 is almost here which came way too fast for our comfort! It’s that time of year to send you an update on how your prayer is being answered for our ministry as well as for your brothers and sisters in NW Argentina. CAMP RIO LOZANO CONSTRUCTION:
The new bakery and cook’s bedroom were finished in August as we took advantage of the drier winter months to work out of doors. The old chapel was torn down in February to make room for the new and much larger one. In July we hired a young man to dig the 425 feet of trenches for the footings. Rectangular steel rebar framework for the anti-earthquake columns and horizontal structures take many hours to prepare and fill with concrete. So far this year we’ve brought over 125 bags of cement that weigh 110 pounds each. Also, last week, we bought six door frames and 20 window frames which weigh 7,500 pounds, made of possibly the hardest, densest and heaviest wood in the world called Quebracho or “axe-breaker.” The Lord willing, it should be finished by January of 2009 with 1,075 square feet of floor space. We’re already praying that it would be used to glorify God as a comfortable place to worship Him. SUMMER CAMP PREPARATIONS:
This summer’s theme is “Lord revive your people” Lamentations 5:21. Our camp committee has been working hard with their counselors to get ready for the summer camping months of January and February. We’re so thankful for program directors who are mature and Spirit-led. SHORT-TERM WORKERS:
In July we had two young men, Seth Rambikur from Rhode Island, and Andrew Uhe from Michigan, stay with us as they ministered to the youth in two Palpala churches. SEMINARY TEACHING:
From September through December the Lord allowed Dave to teach a church growth class to nine students at our Salta seminary, 70 miles to our south. Also, since one of our missionary colleagues is on home assignment, Dave took a supervisory position for two “distance” (home study) seminary groups with 14 students and five more soon to begin their studies. BIBLE STUDIES:
Nancy continues with her women’s Bible study in Palpala with her five faithful students. Dave was able to teach a three-month Christian discipleship class to 15 yourth at the Florida church, also in Palpala. VIDEO AND EVANGELISM MINISTRY:
In the course of this year over 90 came to the Lord for salvation through evangelistic efforts in our Jujuy province. After 13 years and hundreds of hours of use, the antique 50-pound video projector finally decided it was time to retire. We praise the Lord for the new one He provided through our friends at a supporting church in Ohio. This one weighs only six pounds! MOUNTAIN CHURCH ASSOCIATION:
Our nine churches in the mountains are doing well with steady growth albeit with struggles. The construction of the new conference center continues and we are thankful for another supporting church in Michigan which donated $300 to buy 2,500 adobe mud bricks for that building project. FAMILY NEWS:
Josh has one and a half years left before he graduates from Taylor University (May 2009). Lord willing and starting in January, he plans to study at Lithuania Christian College participating in a Taylor University student exchange program. An interesting fact is that Lithuania is where his grandparents (Nancy’s folds) immigrated from. Our daughter, Sara, and husband, David Hopson, were appointed by WorldVenture in October to serve in Albania as church planters and seminary professor. Please pray for them as they discover their needed support. Sara and our granddaughter, Miriam, visited us for a month before returning to cold and wintry Chicago. Again, we want you to praise the Lord with us as we look back at how He has provided the needed physical and spiritual strength this past year. Your friends and co-workers in Jujuy, Argentina
Dave and Nancy Greenman
Additional support needed: $820 per month
Fri Sep 28 20:13:25 2007
See the August 2007 Newsletter.
Mon Aug 13 18:49:59 2007
LOOK WHO'S BEEN COMING TO MINISTER IN NW ARGENTINA!
Six grandchildren of the original missionaries (who had worked here in the early 50's to late 80's) have been coming for the past two years as teachers/ counsellors/helpers during the Río Lozano summer camps. Also, this winter (July, 2007), we have Seth Rambikur from Rhode Island staying with us and working with the youth at the Florida, Palpalá church doing evangelism, visitation, sports and leading some Bible study groups. He and another family friend from Michigan, Andrew Uhe, will soon be going with Dave up into the mountains to attend a three-day youth retreat where about 150 are expected. The 14,000 ft. elevation in the dead of winter requires getting out a lot of our wool and insulating clothing.
CAMPING AND MISSIONS!
Thank you for praying for this past summer's camping program. Attendance was 20% above the 2006 season in spite of the runaway inflation. We consider this past season another fruitful one as the campers were encouraged to focus on their responsibility of being involved in foreign missions. The two main speakers from Bolivia brought good experience in leading their churches in the foreign missionary thrust.
The two Baptist church fellowships in Argentina and Bolivia have come together in a joint effort of exchanging ideas and workers to plant churches and build them up. Our own NW Argentine church fellowship has been developing a program to send at least two workers to Mozambique, Africa to train Sunday School teachers.
VARIOUS ACTIVITIES!
Nancy continues to be involved with her women's Bible study in Alto Palpalá and, with a work team, is directing food preparation at a leadership training retreat this September.
Dave recently started a doctrinal class with 15 Florida, Palpalá young adults. They seem to be more enthusiastic in their walk with the Lord than ever before which encourages us as we have known them since they were very small children.
Dave also is taking on seminary by extension responsibilities in the 10-month absence of another missionary colleague as well as a regular seminary class in September, traveling the 150 round trip miles to Salta.
CAMP CONSTRUCTION!
Material and manual labor prices continue to climb higher and higher but the Lord doesn't want us to stop the building projects and improving the camp grounds. We're actually in the middle of two of the biggest construction projects in Camp Río Lozano's 39-year history........ a modern bakery and cook's quarters as well as the new chapel with 900 sq. ft. of floor space. Our goals for both of these endeavours are not only to enrich the lives of the campers physically and spiritually but also as a testimony of the Lord's goodness and greatness. Thank you for praying towards this end, thanking Him for His provisions through those who want His will to be done here in NW Argentina. If you would like to donate to the cause, please send your gift to World Venture in Colorado with a note saying "for the camp Río Lozano construction fund".
FAMILY NEWS!
David, Sara and Miriam Hopson recently returned from a vision trip to Europe with the purpose of finding out where God would want them to minister in the future. Please pray for clear direction.
Josh stayed on at Taylor University for summer school and for work. He needs your prayer, too, as he wants the Lord to direct in his future career.
Thank you again for your faithful praying. The Lord has blessed us and the ministry here through you so we're very grateful. We're now at a record low support commitment of 84%. Would you, if not already involved, prayerfully consider being part of our financial support team, too?
Your friends and partners in the Lord's business,
Dave and Nancy Greenman
Thu Apr 26 19:02:32 2007
We are currently 86% supported or, in other words, we lack $9,872 annually.
Enjoy your spring weather. We've had summer-type until now with a bit of cold drizzle.
Please pray for this weekend's general church association assembly with elections, ministry reports, etc. We've been working on camp construction 2 days after the camping season was over in mid-February. So, enlarging the bakery and building the chapel are on our agendas.
Another praise note is that I have about 30 young people from two churches in Palapalá signing up for doctrinal Bible studies starting the first of June. Nancy starts up her women's Bible studies in a couple of weeks.
Thanks again for sending on the good news.
Dave (for Nancy, too)
Sun Nov 19 13:24:21 2006
MINISTRY UPDATE
At the time of this writing, we have a foot out of the door, as we leave on another trip to visit our last supporting church on our 2006 home assignment schedule. This time it will be a closer one in eastern Michigan. Thank you for praying for our safety on the road as we traveled the 20,000 + miles these past eight months. For those we were able to visit, THANK YOU so much for your warm welcome, generosity and hospitality. It was so encourging to see you once again and to catch up on your lives and families. In general, of all of our five home assignments, it was one of the best we have had so far. There was never much of a lull in which to have time to twiddle our thumbs from boredom. The Lord allowed us to visit 18 of our 20 supporting churches, see 24 of our 27 supporting individual friends as well as visit our two children (Josh at Taylor in Upland, IN as well as Sara and her family in Oak Park, IL) several times. Family reunions in Sparta and Kalamazoo, MI were refreshing. Time in the Adirondacks of upper-state NY with friends was good and adventuresome. Dave was able to read some good books to help him be more effective among the people in Argentina.
GOD HAS PROVIDED IN ABUNDANCE!
We praise the Lord for His provision in meeting goals for raising funds toward the special projects. These are for building the new chapel at Camp Rio Lozano and for buying the FM tansmitting equipment for our Abra Pampa church Christian radio station. Thank you for your generous giving!
At South Church's October missions conference in Lansing, MI, the children raised $500 for the purchase of approximately 60 pair of tennis shoes. These are destined to be a blessing for needy children in several villages where we work in the Andes Mountains. Pray that God's love would reach their hearts through this act of interest and concern.
DOÑA CARMEN'S HOMEGOING
Doña Carmen de Sosa went to be with the Lord on Sunday November 12. The reason for mentioning this event is because, Carmen, at age 16, became the first person to accept the Lord for salvation in WorldVenture's (formerly CBFMS and CBI) first evangelistic campaign in NW Argentina in 1948. She lived with the Bob and Lois Greenman family shortly after and has been a faithful follower of Christ. She was a great encourager, a student and teacher of the Word, a respected spiritual leader among the Jujuy churches' women and, more personally, a dear and close friend. She'll be missed but we want you to join us in celebrating her homegoing. Thank and praise the Lord with us for Doña Carmen's life.
PLEASE PRAY........
.........as we fly to Jujuy from Chicago on Dec. 1st.
.........as we leave family members in the US.
.........for God's direction in the Hopson's and Josh's lives.
.........for the Rio Lozano summer camps which start the first Saturday of January.
.........for our missionary colleagues in Argentina as well as for the possibilities of new appointees going soon to join the team.
.........for the projected short-term mission teams planning to minister in NW Argentina next July, one from our home church in Sparta, MI.
PRAISE GOD.....
.........for answered prayer in that our support commitment is nearing the mid-90% mark.
.........for answered prayer in reaching our special project fund-raising goals.
.........that Josh will be able to visit us in Argentina during the Taylor University winter break
Your friends and partners in serving our Lord,
Dave and Nancy Greenman
Mon Oct 23 14:01:11 2006
Dave and Nancy Greenman on home assignment THE BIG NEWS We finally graduated on August 17 to the stage of life called grandparenthood! The Lord allowed everything to work out perfectly, allowing us to be on home assignment in the U.S. for this great occasion. In fact, God showed us more of His love and sovereignty when He overruled our concern that we might be on the road visiting our supporting churches at the exact time David and Sara’s baby was born. There was only ONE day between trips that Dave could be in Chicago and, (wouldn’t you know it!) the Lord had baby Miriam Oriana born on THAT day! What a wonderful surprise! What a way to show that HE is in control! Needless to say, we, along with the other set of grandparents, John and Karen Hopson of Cayuhoga Falls, Ohio, are more than thrilled! For those interested in more of the details, Miriam was 6 lbs 13 oz, 19 inches long and nice and pink. Thanks for praying for a safe birth and, while you’re at it, pray for David and Sara as they seek the Lord’s direction as they’re looking forward to going to the mission field. David is studying at the Wheaton College grad school and plans to finish next year. NEWS ABOUT DAVE, NANCY AND JOSH We’ve driven more than 17,000 miles in the past six months, already visited 13 of our 20 partnering churches and driven through 16 states. That includes the trip to our WorldVenture mission office in Littleton, Colorado, in June where we were given physical exams, were interviewed, gave our ministry reports as well as given clearance to return to Argentina. We’ve had such a good time seeing friends, relatives and a great time with Josh who traveled with us to the Adirondacks of New York, where we have a supporting church. We also had a great time with Dave’s folks as they celebrated their 60th wedding anniversary the end of July. One very noteworthy bit of news is that we are in the process of buying a little house right here in Sparta, Michigan. When it belonged to our home church we lived in it for two years during Dave’s seminary training back in ’78-’80 so it already has some good memories invested in it. Pray with us that it would be a blessing as we use it to minister to other as well as to ourselves. Our return to Argentina, the Lord willing, is scheduled for the end of November, just in time to settle in again and start the summer (December – February) camping season at Camp Rio Lozano. We praise god for providing all of our family’s needs, including Josh’s. He’s doing very well at Taylor University in Upland, Indiana, where he’s double-majoring in history and Spanish. He has over 100 friends; mostly third culture kids (or missionary kids) who hove lived in foreign countries. He enjoys working on the Mu-Kappa M.K. fellowship committee that organizes activities for that group. MINISTRY NEWS FROM ARGENTINA Word has filtered up to us from Argentina that the 85 churches are very excited about being involved in foreign missions. A couple has already been sent to Bolivia as church planters and two Sunday School teacher trainers are being prepared to be sent to Mozambique, Africa. The camp planning committee is doing very well but they would like your prayers, too, since good speakers are somewhat difficult to come by. They continue their search. There are so many details to be cared for before the camps start so it’s a stressful time during the final planning stages at the end of the year. Three couples are very interested in going as missionaries to NW Argentina. Please pray for them, too. We definitely need more workers. FINANCIAL NEWS Please praise the Lord with us that we’re well on our way to raising the needed funds for the new camp chapel construction project. We’re still working toward the $2,000 for the Christian FM radio station project at the Abra Pampa church. We have a deficit in personal support because of the loss of a few churches as well as the home going of several faithful ones. If you could pray that the Lord would supply the needed commitments, we would really appreciate it. He has always provided for his work through your sacrifice that is dedicated to Him and we’re trusting that those needs would be met according to His good will and timing. Additional support needed is $559 per month. This may be enough news for one sitting so we hope you can take it all in! It’s amazing that so much has happened in the past six months and even we feel a bit overwhelmed. Nevertheless, we’re rejoicing in our Lord and His goodness. He has answered your prayers as well as ours. Your friends who are grateful to Him and to you,
Dave and Nancy Greenman
Fri Aug 18 11:49:20 2006
We're finally grandparents! Miriam Hopson....born to David and Sara (Greenman) Hopson at 10:58 a.m. in Chicago. 6 lbs. 13 oz. and 19 inches. The nurses say "It was a textbook birth!" Everyone happy and mom is recuperating fast. Nancy is staying in the area to be a caregiver for 12 days.
Mon Jul 17 14:18:09 2006
Praise God… 1. for successful debriefings, interviews, reports and physical exams while at our WorldVenture mission headquarters in Littleton, CO. We were encouraged and, from exam results, still seem to be in decent health! 2. for new financial support commitments of two individual families. 3. for news from Argentina that the camp committee planning for next summer (Jan. – Feb. 2007) is going well. 4. that supporting churches we have visited are showing good response to what the Lord is doing in His work in NW Argentina. 5. for His generous provision to David Hopson (our son-in-law) for a Billy Graham foundation scholarship toward his post-grad studies at Wheaton College. He and Sara are asking for God’s direction toward their being involved in missions… perhaps in Europe. 6. that Josh finished his freshman year well at Taylor University in Upland, Indiana. He is presently with us for the summer here in Michigan. Pray… 1. for protection as we travel on deputation. We have already driven 6,000 miles in the three months we have been in the United States. 2. that the Lord would supply needed support. We lace 10 percent. 3. that the Lord would speak through us to spark more interest in missions among the people that we visit in the United States and that some would give their lives to Him in obedience. 4. for the two missionary families who are interested in full-time ministering in Argentina. One is already there on the short-term basis. The other is looking for God’s direction for placement and will be appointed by WorldVenture soon. 5. that the Lord would provide funds for a special project. Argentina: Rio Lizano Improvements #6406-908 - $5,000 for the building of a new chapel at Camp Rio Lozano. 6. that the birth of David’s and Sara’s baby and out first grandchild, to be born in Chicago, would go well. Expected date: August 19. 7. that Nancy would have the strength and wisdom to care for her family’s needs before we leave for the field in November. Thanks for praising and praying with us. God’s provision and grace has definitely been evident on a daily basis and we owe much to you who have been faithfully part of our support source. May God get all of the glory and honor! Dave and Nancy Greenman
Tue Jun 27 18:35:57 2006
Praise God......
1. ......for successful debriefings, interviews, reports and physical exams while at our WorldVenture mission headquarters in Littleton, CO. We were encouraged and, from exam results, still seem to be in decent health!
2. ......for new financial support commitments of two individual families.
3. .....for news from Argentina that the camp committee planning for next summer (Jan. - Feb. 2007) is going well.
4. ......that supporting churches that we have visited are showing good response to what the Lord is doing in His work in NW Argentina.
5. ......for His generous provision to David Hopson (our son-in-law) for a Billy Graham foundation scholarship toward his post-grad studies at Wheaton College. He and Sara are asking for God's direction toward their being involved in missions.....perhaps in Europe.
6. .....that Josh finished his freshman year well at Taylor University in Upland, Indiana. He is presently with us for the summer here in Michigan.
Pray....
1. .....for protection as we travel on deputation. We have already driven 6,000 in the three months we have been in the US.
2. ..... that the Lord would supply needed support. We lack 10%.
3. .....that the Lord would speak through us to spark more interest in missions among the people that we visit in the US and that some would give their lives to Him in obedience.
4. .....for the two missionary families who are interested in full-time ministering in Argentina. One is already there on a short-term basis. The other is looking for God's direction for placement and will be appointed by WorldVenture soon.
5. .....that the Lord would provide funds for two special projects. A. $5,000 for the building of a new chapel at Camp Rio Lozano. B. $2,000 for FM radio equipment needed for the church in Abra Pampa. After many years, they have finally obtained a free non-profit-making permit but their current home-made transmitter isn't government approved. We were afraid they would have to pay a whopping $24,000 government license fee but God intervened for them!
6. .....that the birth of David's and Sara's baby and our first grandchild, to be born in Chicago, would go well. Expected date: Aug. 19th.
7. .....that Nancy would have the strength and wisdom to care for her family's needs before we leave for the field in November.
Thanks for praising and praying with us. God's provision and grace has definitely been evident on a daily basis and we owe much to you who have been faithfully part of our support source. May God get all of the glory and honor!
Dave and Nancy Greenman
Sun May 7 11:46:09 2006
Lois Greenman, mother of Dave and Dick Greenman, our missionaries to Argentina, accepted the Lord at 13 and, for the next 10 years was active in our church, especially with the youth group. She attended Moody evening school and Wheaton College, studying anthropology and preparing for the mission field. She met her future husband, Bob, at a friend's wedding after he had been appointed to Argentina with CBFMS. They were married at Norwood Park Baptist in July of 1946....almost 60 years ago. They served the Lord as missionaries in Argentina, helped by their friends at NPBC until 1983. Nancy and I met at Western Michigan University in 1972 where I was majoring in Spanish and Latin American studies. She was interested in missionary children's primary education. In 1976, after we had been married 2 years, NPBC supported us for one year as we went to Argentina as short-term missionaries working among the youth in a city, found in the northernmost part of Argentina, called Tartagal. We were also involved in the summer camping program in the same camp where we are currently ministering. We were appointed by CBFMS to Argentina in January of 1981, 1/2 a year before graduating from the Grand Rapids Baptist Seminary in Michigan. NBPC committed itself to our support shortly after. My relationship with NPBC started while very young, almost 56 years ago.....as a supported missionary NPBC and WCCC over 25 years ago.
Mon Mar 27 14:17:09 2006
What is your reaction when a dream becomes reality? Do you thank the Lord? Do you celebrate? At our camp in Rio Lozano, Jujuy we are doing both things because WE FINALLY HAVE THE GASLINE INSTALLED after waiting a whole year for the contractor to finish! Let’s call it a miracle from the Lord because that’s what it is! Who would have EVER guessed that, one day, a gas line would reach us far in the country side, miles from nowhere? No more looking for the gas cylinder man! No more running out! No more high gas bills! It may sound as if we’re making a big deal over this milestone in the comp’s history but, believe us, it’s a miracle. You prayed for it, God provided it and we’re very thankful. The whole project come to $7,000 dollars but, within six to seven years, the investment will pay for itself since out yearly gas bills have been over $1,300. From now on they will be lowered by 60 percent. Thank the Lord and celebrate with us! We all know that the main purpose of the camp is for spiritual growth and the strengthening of the local church. The Lord again has blessed us richly, in that respect, referring to this past summer’s camping season. The theme for all six camps was “Put God’s armor on! We’re at war!” (Ephesians 6:13) and many went away better prepared for the spiritual battle. Over fifteen came to the Lord. One young person came with the sole intention of making trouble. He rededicated himself to Christ, went home with an enthusiastic heart and sent four of his unsaved nephews to the next week’s (younger age group) camp. They accepted Christ and, also enthusiastically joyful, went back home to testify to God’s love and work in them. Nine more family members and friends gave their lives to Christ for salvation! You prayed and God answered! Let’s celebrate even more for these bigger miracles! The number of campers wasn’t as great as in past years (probably because of the financial squeeze in Argentina) but 21 made a big effort to travel from the Chaco province 450 miles from Jujuy. Some of you might have heard that Nancy and I will be grandparents (for the first time) in July. David and Sara gave us the good news as a Christmas gift and, included in our many blessings, the little one’s arrival will be during our next home assignment! David has been involved in post-grad studies (with a historical theology major) at Wheaton College while Sara has been a medical/social worker for a Christian service foundation with over 150 Spanish-speaking women in the poorer Chicago suburbs. Josh has done well after settling into studies at Taylor University in Indiana, making good friends and enjoying classes. Thanks so much for prayer for us! We hope to see most of you as soon as we start visiting our supporting churches and friends during our travels then next eight months. We continue to be grateful for the Lord’s gifts of miracles, fruit, family blessings and…for you, of course, since you have been so faithful in praying and giving for these past 25 years. Dave and Nancy
Mon Mar 6 13:04:52 2006
Hi again folks,
As I've mentioned lately, Nancy travels to Chicago via Buenos Aires and Miami on Monday. I follow on the 30th.
It seems that Nancy's brother Art had a massive stroke since the MRI shows a big swelling in the back of the brain. The doctors say that he is unlikely to ever wake up out of the coma and so his two sons have signed a statement allowing the doctors to ignore any sort of heart attack since that is unavoidable in this sort of case. There's nothing more to be done at this time other than for Nancy to travel to take care of her elderly sister, Leta, who is now living alone with her son, Bob. Our Sara has been keeping us informed and Nancy has been communicating daily with Leta. By the way, David and Sara have gone south today(free trip to the Bahamas) for four days. He and a friend spent five hours in a Wendy's dumpster looking for coupons and finally had enough to get the tickets. Interesting.
I'll miss Nancy, of course, but her going is the best for herself and the family. I'll be taking care of things around here, including some important meetings, saying farewell to friends, etc.
Thanks for writing, for your concern and prayers.
Your friend,
Dave
Mon Mar 6 13:03:34 2006
Hi folks,
We need your prayer for Nancy's family right now. Her oldest brother, Art, who just turned 77 a couple of days ago, went into coma and is in a Grand Rapids hospital. The MRI didn't show much and he only responds to pain. That's all we know after being in constant contact with our daughter, Sara, in Chicago. Pray for the Maciulaitis family, especially Art in this time of need. Since Nancy is the only Christian family member, she has been the strong one and has, in a way, taken care of her elderly brother and sister, albeit from a distance. Our reservations on Lloyd Bolivian Airlines for travel to the US were for March 30th but Nancy will be leaving, by herself, this Monday, on Argentine Airlines via Buenos Aires. I need to stay here to wrap things up like storing things for our eight months of home assignment as well as attend some important mission and national church association meetings on the 10th and 11th.
Thanks for praying us through this.
Your friend and co-laborer in Jujuy,
Dave Greenman
Fri Mar 3 14:49:47 2006
Hi folks,
We need your prayer for Nancy's family right now. Her oldest brother, Art, who just turned 77 a couple of days ago, went into coma and is in a Grand Rapids hospital. The MRI didn't show much and he only responds to pain. That's all we know after being in constant contact with our daughter, Sara, in Chicago. Pray for the Maciulaitis family, especially Art in this time of need. Since Nancy is the only Christian family member, she has been the strong one and has, in a way, taken care of her elderly brother and sister, albeit from a distance. Our reservations on Lloyd Bolivian Airlines for travel to the US were for March 30th but Nancy will be leaving, by herself, this Monday, on Argentine Airlines via Buenos Aires. I need to stay here to wrap things up like storing things for our eight months of home assignment as well as attend some important mission and national church association meetings on the 10th and 11th.
Thanks for praying us through this.
Your friend and co-laborer in Jujuy,
Dave Greenman
Mon Dec 19 14:17:36 2005
CAMP UPDATE Our camp committee is working harder now that the summer camping season starts in a month. We usually hold our breath since there are several instances of speakers, counselors and cooks who wait ‘til the last minute to confirm their commitments to lend a hand. You can imagine how much this plays havoc on our nerves so pray that we would wait calmly on the Lord first and then for the volunteers. Our theme this year is ARM YOURSELF! WE’RE AT WAR! The spiritual war against evil, of course, using Ephesians 6:13 as our key verse. Two hundred and six attended the women’s retreat this year so we were thankful that 47 new mattresses were brought just in time. Several construction projects are complete such as the municipal water system, the water tank, the new and very hygienic dish washing system and the plastering of all the dorm walls (which keeps the scorpions from coming through the cracks). The gas line to the camp is almost connected but we still need your prayer that it would be complete by the first of January. The contractors promised to have it all done this past April…seven months ago! FAMILY UPDATE Sara is now a bilingual social worker for a Christian outfit that attends to the helath needs of Spanish-speaking women in the Chicago area. Pray that she would have opportunities to direct some of them to Christ. Sara’s husband, David, will be studying toward his mater’s degree at Wheaton College in January. Josh, our college freshman, is finishing his first semester at Western Michigan University in Kalamazoo and is now thinking about transferring to Taylor, a Christian college in Indiana. He needs your prayer regarding his decisions for career goals. We plan, the Lord willing, to be in the United States starting in April to see our family, friends and supporters for eight months. We need a good breather! We anticipate visiting with many of you during our travels. In the meantime, many arrangements have to be made such as finding helpers to run the camp, take care of our house and fulfill other responsibilities during our absence. Thanks for praying for these needs, too. Have a good winter season thanking the Lord for His goodness…for His goodness toward yourself as well as for His goodness and encouragement that your friends in Jujuy are experiencing. Dave and Nancy Greenman
Fri Dec 2 13:33:12 2005
We five missionaries on the NW Argentine field (also speaking for our national churches) want to thank you very much for your generous giving toward the International Crusades special project of preparing literature and tracts. We went past our goal so the extra funds were used for some of the international travelers who didn't have enough for their return trips to Brazil. Many came from other places also, like Chile, Paraguay, Bolivia and even from southern Argentina to spend their vacations pulling in the spiritual fishing nets. Nonetheless, God was good to us as we needed this special "shot in the arm" for church growth. Over 2,500 came to Him for salvation. Please thank the Lord with us for His bountiful blessings. Now for the hard part of discipleship and follow-up.
Our camp committee is in the last stretch of preparations for the Jan. - Feb. camping season so please pray for them, too.
May the Lord bless you in your walk with Him and have a good time with family at Christmas. We'll miss our children this year but, hopefully, will spend time with some friends over the barbecue grills and enjoying the church programs.
Yours in the service,
Dave Greenman
Thu Dec 1 13:22:55 2005
We just returned from a weekend visit to Angosto de Paraní......an 8 ½ hr. drive NE of Jujuy.....then 70 kms. W of Orán. Our truck had 10 passengers and the little green trailer handled all the luggage and video equipment. The people were so grateful for our ministry of preaching, encouragement and two of our Palpalá girls taught 50 kids for two days. Angosto is in the jungle but at the foot of the Andes. This church has approx. 130 members.
Mon Oct 10 11:50:35 2005
Hi Folks,
We praise the Lord for a great women's retreat which ended yesterday afternoon. Approximately 205 attended and at least 1/2 a dozen accepted Christ. Aydee and Miriam Prieto from Salta brought the messages which were exceptional. Miriam Alonzo and sister Edith Lopez were the seminar leaders. It was all very well done to say the least with a good spirit. The weather was perfect, a bit cool at night but just right for sleeping comfortably. Nancy and I are beat. I spoke at our church last night while Nancy opted for going to bed early.
Today is a feriado or holiday.....día de la raza (Columbus Day or "Day of the Spanish/Indian race).......moved up to the 10th so people could have a long weekend. The camp committee was scheduled to meet today in Salta but, after talking to several members, we'll probably cancel it for another week. Everyone in Salta wants to attend the inter-church youth olympics at the Intersindical church and.....physically, I feel like staying home. There's so much to do, however, getting ready for the summer camps, etc. Ken Flurry (our overseas missions director) and wife Arlene are flying into Jujuy this Thursday to visit the field for interviews and an afternoon discussion session and get-together for tea out at the camp. Our discussion will be the SBE (mission) financial relationship (in light of our strategic planning) with the national church association UBNOA. They've been asking for more and more special project funds for different ministries but, with such a small missionary force, we're limited as to how much we can raise. When we can't raise the whole amount to reach the goals, there's slight tension and we're put on the spot. Dick, my brother, says we should cut special project goals by 2/3.....at least to a sum which we feel we can handle. All four families (and Barb) aren't the best fund- raisers in the world and Ferguson (our best fund-raiser) isn't around to help out. Pray for us as we try to create policies/guidelines for the future to help our national colleagues see the need for their part in pulling the load. All the funds that have come in for the International Crusades project has been raised with the help of retired missionaries and the retirement village my folks are involved with.
Another pressure is setting things up for our replacement when we retire. The question everyone is asking is....."Will you look for a US missionary or an Argentine?" My answer is "I don't know". Our personal feelings are that the Argentines should take over. They'll have to if the Lord doesn't send anyone from the US. I asked the board of directors the other day about it and they said "Get a missionary since we aren't financially able to handle that ministry". It's interesting that the same people tell me "Don't raise the prices at the camp. We want cheap camps." So........I think it's our job to, bit by bit, wean the field from foreign sources since the work has been established for almost 60 years. By the time we retire the field will almost be ready to celebrate their 75th anniversary. The transition may be a time of tension but someone has to take the brunt. We've been talking about it for years but not much has been done. Dick says that we should try to keep good relationships but let's hope and pray that these relationships aren't just based on finances. We should have a servant's heart.....yes.....but someday the servant won't be around and we should help them raise up national servants to carry on the Lord's work. Anyway, these are things we're going to discuss this weekend. Thanks again for praying. We need the right spirit and the Lord's leading. If you have ANY type of insights/comments/suggestions/words of encouragement, PLEASE help us out by jotting a few down and sending them to our email address.
Did we tell you about our trip to Varas about 1 1/2 weeks ago? It's a town that's a 2-hour drive into the mountains east of Humahuaca and VERY cold. Praise the Lord for sunshine during the daylight hours! Six came to the Lord after beating the bushes and walking for kilometers up and down the valleys. Nancy stayed in the kitchen helping a gal butcher a sheep and cutting up potatoes. Hiking isn't her top choice activity, you see, especially at over 3,700 meters (12,000 + ft.)
After this Saturday's missionary interviews, we're taking Ken and Arlene up to Huacalera for an overnight acclimatization period and then up to Abra Pampa for the 10:30 am service on Sunday. Perhaps they'll have llama asado for lunch? We'll see. Their flight out from Salta is Monday at 9:30 am so will have to put them on the Balut bus Sunday night so Barb can house them at her place.
Are you getting ready for winter? Our weather is warming up here and it's supposed to be 86º F tomorrow. It's been so dry with little or no rain so Nancy is trying as hard as she can to keep her flowers watered. The garden looks beautiful.
Bueno. That's about it for now.....until our next musings.
¡Bendiciones y hasta pronto! Translation: Blessings and see you soon!
Dave and Nancy
Tue Sep 20 10:26:23 2005
Dear friends of the NW Argentine field.
Our general association of churches is making a big push for evangelism this year as well as in 2006 with International Crusades. Commited believers are coming to help from Brazil, Chile, Bolivia, Paraguay and Uruguay but our association (called the UBNOA) needs funds to purchase tracts and literature. Could you help? We as a field have commited ourselves to ask those who would be most interested in winning souls and this is the reason for this note. Funds can be sent to our mission agency, WoldVenture 1501 W. Mineral Avenue Littleton, Colorado 80120 for the Argentine field evangelism special project of International Crusades.
Thanks so much for your gift toward winning more souls for Christ.
Your fellow-servant in HIS work,
Dave Greenman
Sun Jul 17 11:41:25 2005
Yup. We're getting old and, sad to say, happens on a daily basis. We're both 55 at least until our next birthdays. Our kids probably think that we're ancient but I can still keep up with them in the mountains. I just don't like to carry so heavy of a pack as I did 25 years ago. Forty pounds is much more manageable than 50 - 60.
The camp and church ministry continues with its usual bumps and curves. It never gets any easier.
Nancy and Josh leave for Chicago on Aug. 4th, a week earlier than planned since Josh has decided to attend a TCK reentry seminar in Colorado Springs before starting college on Aug. 23rd. That means that Nancy will be in the US seven weeks instead of the originally-planned six. It will be a lonely time for me after our house being so full but I'll keep busy, of course, with work at the camp, a conference in Paicone (in the puna near La Cienega), visitation, preaching and showing videos in different churches, etc. At least our dog, Clyde will be around for "man's best friend" type of company at home here at Cuyo 97.
Other news: Renato is going to Mozambique, Africa on a vision trip so our field would get more excited regarding world missions.
Dick and Lori are in Michigan until Feb. It will be our turn next April. My folks are doing ok for their 83 and 87 years of age but have decided not to come to Argentina or any other type of long trip. They just aren't up to it.
Good news! Our son-in-law, David Hopson, has been accepted at Wheaton College grad school to study historical theology and philosophy so they're in the process of moving out of their Chicago apartment and looking for another one farther west. Sara loses her Italian coffeemaking job the end of this month so will be looking for another one to help hubby through school. You can imagine the changes they and Josh will be experiencing. Josh doesn't know what to study yet but is interested in international marketing and Spanish. He's open to other fields of study but, in the meantime, will be studying in Kazoo and living in a house near the campus rented out to Christian guys.
Well, that's about it for the time-being.....sort of a bird's eye view of ministry and family. Keep in touch. We like hearing from you, too, so we can know how to pray.
Your friend and brother in Jujuy,
Dave
Tue Jul 5 13:02:34 2005
Thought I'd send a few pics of our family mtn. climbing vacation in the Andes of Peru. Taken 16 - 19 of June, 2005.
First light on Huandoy Mtn. (21.000 ft.)
Base camp (14,250 ft.)
Sarah and Josh on the Pisco climb
We'd like to tell you that we're proud parents of a graduate from high
school......our son Joshua......who graduated from the Santa Cruz
Christian Learning Center in Santa Cruz, Bolivia on May 26th with high
honors. Many of you have been praying for him as he's been studying,
first at Tambo (New Tribes Mission school) since the 7th grade and, when
that school closed last year, transferred to Sta. Cruz. He's worked
hard and has also matured in his walk with the Lord. He's been
attending and helping with a new church in the downtown area of Sta.
Cruz called KAIROS that reaches needy youth. Please pray for him as he
will be attending Western Michigan University in Kalamazoo, Michigan
which has 30,000 students. Classes start August 23rd. His major? Josh
is interested in business and Spanish. The Lord provided a house that
belongs to a Christian who rents out to Christian young men.
Photo of Josh
Biography
Mon Jun 19 13:28:10 2006
Dave & Nancy Greenman
Church planting and training Christian leaders to serve the Argentine church
Fast Facts:
Birthdays David (6/26), Nancy (11/26)
Anniversary (1/26/74)
Family Sara (6/29/81), Joshua (8/24/86)
Education Dave: 1968–1969 attended Moody Bible Institute, Chicago, Illinois; B.A. in languages and Latin American studies, 1974, Western Michigan University, Kalamazoo; M.R.E. with a missions emphasis, 1981, Grand Rapids Baptist Seminary, Michigan. Nancy: 1969–1972 attended Grand Rapids Baptist College. B.S. in elementary education, 1974, Western Michigan University.
Appointed January 1981
Home church Sparta Baptist Church in Sparta, Michigan Serving in Argentina was like returning to familiar territory for Dave Greenman who grew up there with his missionary parents. While studying at Western Michigan University in Kalamazoo, Michigan, Dave met Nancy who had already been preparing for the mission field. She had also been raised in another culture since her family had immigrated to the United States from Lithuania. The Lord’s direction was confirmed in their lives as their interest in missions grew while working among Latins in Kalamazoo and Grand Rapids. After seminary training at Grand Rapids Baptist Seminary in Michigan, deputation and language training, they arrived in Argentina in 1984. The Greenmans’ ministry has a number of facets. One emphasis is the camping program at Camp Rio Lozano in Jujuy, the most Northwest province in Argentina. They direct the program and develop the beautiful camp property mostly in landscaping, maintenance and construction. Many children, youth and adults give their lives to Christ for salvation and/or re-dedication every year. Another important ministry they are involved in is church planting and development in Palpala, a steelmill town. The Greenmans have helped start two churches in the past nine years and are involved in encouraging the Jujuy area churches. Dave also serves as advisor for two regional church associations, trains church leaders in a seminary, and teaches evangelism. They’ve been encouraged at the interest the Argentine believers have shown in reaching their own people. Nancy helps Dave at the camp when needed but her main focus is in women’s ministries. She leads Bible studies and is involved in counseling. The Greenmans have two children: Sara, who graduated from Moody Bible Institute in Chicago, married David Hopson in 2004 and they are looking towards a life-career in missions. Josh, is studying at Taylor University in Upland, Indiana.
Ministry-at-a-Glance Primary Ministry Focus – Directing the camping program, construction and developing the campgrounds. Dave serves as camp administrator, mountain church association adviser, local church developer, seminary professor, and works with the video evangelism. Nancy works with women’s Bible studies and counseling.
The People – The people in Jujuy are primarily from Bolivian Indian descent, many working in construction, as school teachers, in small industry or as government office workers.
Major Challenges – Local churches still lack spiritually mature and strong leaders. The main focus is to teach and train them toward faithfulness to Christ and with a responsible, evangelistic and missionary vision.
Prayer Focus – Pray for the committee that is planning for next summer’s camping season (January – February). Pray for the Abra Pampa (mountain) church which needs a license to transmit their Christian radio programs. The Land and the People
Argentina is a land of rich variety in climate and geography. This South American country stretches from the Antarctic in the south to the tropics in the north; from mountain peaks in the west to the Atlantic Ocean in the east. At four times the size of Texas, Argentina is the second largest country in South America. Above the expansive tropical valleys where many remote Argentine villages are located, the summits of the Andes Mountains soar. Nomadic Indians roamed Argentina long before the Spanish arrived to colonize the country in the 16th century. By the 19th century, nearly all the indigenous peoples had been eradicated. Colonists declared independence from Spain in 1816, and after decades of conflict among various political groups, Argentina was unified and a constitution established in 1853. Argentina has been profoundly influenced by massive immigration. Argentines live with unemployment, low wages, high debt and a sense of insecurity about the future. The contrast between the very wealthy and the very poor is confirmed by merely looking down a city street. Most recently, the country has suffered from severe economic instability, and a succession of government officials has been trying to solve the crisis. ARGENTINA Population: 36.9 million
Languages: Spanish (official), English, Italian, German, French
Major religion: Roman Catholicism
Date entered by CBI: 1947
Number of CBI workers: 11
Location of WorldVenture Workers: Buenos Aires, Salta, Tucuman, Jujuy
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